Wednesday, August 19, 2015

Refuting the rest of Animating Rebel's bullshit

This post is a response to the rest of Animating Retard's video titled "Ander Smith: Incompetent AND Dishonest", as well as his latest debacle.
I'll go over the recent stuff first. Lately I've been bludgeoning Animating Retard in the comments section of one of my videos, and he's gotten nowhere with his Chichoney-style word games. It's as clear as ever that he isn't trying to make his position understandable. That would be against his strategy as an obscurantist.
Time and time again, he has failed to answer simple questions like:
If control isn't just qualia, then what else is it?
What do you mean by responsibility?
Why does your model provide us with a stronger sense of responsibility than compatibilism?
What is the difference between non-causally making things happen and not making things happen?
What dictionary definition of control are you using? (He did eventually provide one, but he won't let me quote him on it, so I'm still waiting.)
As I said in one of my comments, what he's describing is really just a coin toss + qualia. He's talking about holding people morally accountable for good or bad luck just because they had a certain experience.

Response to "Ander Smith: Incompetent AND Dishonest":
1:18 [Animating Retard complains that he clearly explained his position and I didn't address.]
Here is why he needs to shut up:
1. He supposedly explained his position in a comment, which he deleted. But my video was written before he wrote these comments.
2. Why the fuck did he delete the thread? And no, he didn't explain his position. I know that because he still hasn't explained it. See the comments on my video "Idealists Fail Again". He tried and failed to explain his gibberish there.
3. Why did I need to add his shit to my video? It wasn't intended to be a response to him. I'm not obligated to do that.

3:35 [Animating Retard asks, "where did I literally say, 'therefore matter does not exist?'"]
He said it's incoherent and indistinguishable from nothing. That's just another way of saying it doesn't exist.

3:48 [Animating Retard says: "Matter can still exist even if our conception (or description) of it is incoherent."]
Ok, he just doesn't know what his own words mean, so I have to explain them to him.
Incoherent things cannot exist. Things that are indistinguishable from nothing cannot exist (they'd be nothing).
I didn't misinterpret him, he just misunderstood himself.

4:19 [Animating Rebel claims I don't understand the difference between inductive and deductive arguments, but doesn't show where I misunderstood this. He then shows a Facebook thread which he claims shows that his argument is inductive.]
On that thread and in many other places, he was trying to make a stupider version of Berkeley's master argument, which is a deductive argument from a tautology (it also happens to be the worst argument in the world, google it). And he doesn't seem to realize that saying matter is "pragmatically useless" is not the same as saying it is "incoherent and indistinguishable from nothing", which is another thing he actually said. So at best he contradicted himself.
And let's have a look at that Facebook thread:
He says:
"Take a ball. It can be red, round, bouncy, soft, and gives a peculiar smell. How would you define the ball as anything other than those properties I just mentioned and the experience it gives?"
Well, we can talk about properties that aren't sensations, like the ball's mass, spatial properties, chemistry, etc.
He then says:
"Since each of those properties are contingent on your perception and experience, it makes no sense to say anything objectively exists outside of our experience."
But he thinks information exists outside of experience.
Sam says: "I don't think you understand information theory. It doesn't entail the absence of the physical. It is just a model cast upon the physical in order to discern signals from noise. I've published in the area of bioinformatics which is the application of information systems and theory to understand biological phenomena."
Animating Retard says, "that's not the kind of information I was referring to."
That's right, because he's referring to the kind that doesn't mean anything. He just uses information as a computery-sounding filler word because his position is vacuous. He belongs to a group of people who think that you can describe the world by saying "being" and "isness" over and over again.
There is no version of his argument that makes sense. Yeah, we don't experience phenomenal properties when we don't experience phenomenal properties. To give a specific example, I don't have the sensation of tasting coffee when I'm not having the sensation of tasting coffee. How the fuck do you get from that to the claim that the coffee must be converted to some nonspatial information stuff when no one is experiencing it? Either way we're going to have to posit something that exists apart from observation. He posits information which is just a more mysterious version of matter.

5:40 [Animating Retard claims he has already proven in comments that matter cannot objectively have spatial extension.]
I already replied to those dumbass comments. And those comments appear to contradict his current position. In the quote I was just replying to, he seem to think its ok to define matter as having spatial extension. And his argument against matter having spatial extension is just pure shit. He says it is only meaningful based on perceptions and experience. I guess he means that it is impossible to understand the concept of space without experiencing it, but it doesn't follow from that that space doesn't exist when it's not being experienced.
His other arguments are also catastrophically bad. He says that matter cannot seen, heard, touched, smelled or tasted, because those require perceptions from a mind. Ok, they require a mind, but we fucking have minds, so where's the problem?

6:55 [Animating Rebel denies saying that my arguments have no consequences for free will, and says that they obviously show that we're limited to choosing between a set of thoughts and desires that occur to us.]
He previously said that libertarians already accept my arguments because they don't undermine libertarian free will. That's what I meant by saying that they have no consequences according to him. I don't see how he failed to understand this.
And the arguments absolutely do not show we are able to choose between a set of thoughts and desires. We're talking about arguments AGAINST being able to choose your thoughts and desires.
So what he's saying is that: "Showing you can't choose thoughts and desires shows that you can choose thoughts and desires!"
Contradictory fuck.

7:35 [Animating Rebel claims that free will doesn't require choosing thoughts or desires]
I already pointed out that on many definitions free will DOES entail that. If you think your choices are based on your thoughts and desires (as many people do for obvious reasons), then you would need to have control over your thoughts and desires, otherwise you are being determined by things you don't choose. This is basically Strawson's argument, I have just narrowed it down to thoughts and desires since those are the attributes people usually claim affect their choices.
Just because some retard wants to make up some horseshit and call it free will to escape the arguments doesn't mean those arguments don't work for the types of free will they were meant to address.

8:40 [Animating Rebel plays a clip from one of my videos and claims I am saying something similar to what he is saying.]
The clip he plays is totally irrelevant. In it I say that being coerced at one point doesn't take away your free will during future decisions in which you're not being coerced.
Animating Rebel is talking about ending up in a situation in which you have to choose between a limited number of desires. Explain to me how the fuck that has anything to do with what I just said.
And again, if we're granting an argument that says you cannot choose your desires, then you aren't going to be able to choose between a limited number of desires you mentally impaired child.

9:11 [Animating Rebel says that his model is not a coin toss, and says I didn't explain why I think it is.]
He got me this time. He's right, his model is not a coin toss in that it doesn't actually involve real coins. But it's still fucking random. It's random by my definition, it's random by what philosophers in this field mean by random, it's even random by the definition he gave me of random (he said, "random means happened for no reason"). According to him, it is possible for you to act on either desire, and you act on one for no reason. It cannot get anymore random than that. Animating Rebel's only attempt to avoid this problem is to redefine randomness. He simply builds an inconsistency with "control" into the meaning of randomness for the sole purpose of making his model nonrandom.
But this word game doesn't do anything to solve the problem. His model is still like a coin toss in the relevant and damaging way: your choice just comes down to a 50/50 chance. So he's actually just accepting randomness while asserting that it gives you more control and accountability for no reason.
I already responded to his model and explained why it is a coin toss in my previous video. His distinction isn't even a real distinction, and has nothing to do with you having responsibility. He says that his model is not random because there is some sort of experience he has. Of course, whether or not he has such an experience, it is still random by the ordinary definition of "happening for no reason." It's not clear why on earth we should define randomness to exclude this experience he's talking about, except for to save his model.
Imagine that there is some perfectly random quantum event that could either result in X or Y. If X is the result, the agent will choose A. If Y is the result, the agent will choose B. There is no significant difference between this and Animating Rebel's model. There is no reason why you couldn't also have the same sort of experience under these circumstances.

10:31 [Animating Retard says he is not shifting the burden of proof, and says again that not all arguments are deductive.]
He cannot connect the claim that "all arguments are deductive" to anything I said. Shifting the burden of proof IS making a claim and saying that you're correct by default, which is exactly what he did.

10:50 [Animating Rebel claims that his burden of proof was already met because he asserted that free will is intuitive and that his experience confirms it.]
That's just a load of shit. It's intuitive TO HIM. His experiences are not acceptable evidence for someone else. I don't have experiences that confirm free will, so does that mean my burden is met? And what experience would confirm that it is metaphysically possible for you to do otherwise, and that your doing otherwise would not depend on randomness? Please tell me.
So no, he didn't meet his burden of proof. He's just claiming he's experienced something and saying everyone else ought to take his word for it.

11:24 [Animating Retard says that evidence for indeterminism is evidence for free will.]
He has to show why free will is more plausible than randomness ("because he feels like it" is not a convincing reason). He hasn't done that. Ignoring the fact that it's incoherent, sure, you could say that it's now more probable than before we knew determinism was false, but it wouldn't make for a convincing argument for free will because it's still equal footing with randomness (perhaps not quite because Ockham's razor favors randomness).

12:03 [Animating Rebel says he addressed the argument against free will.]
He "addressed" it by conceding it and then redefining everything so that he can still say he has control, it isn't random, and he's responsible. But the actual content of his model is still just a fucking coin toss, so he didn't do anything to escape the argument.

12:23 [Animating Rebel says his model "CLEARLY" isn't a randomness model.]
This is just ridiculous. He said our choices happen for no reason, but it "clearly" isn't random? I fail to see how it could be more obvious that it's random. Again, he has just changed the meaning of random so that it excludes his redefined "control".

12:34 [Animating Retard displays one of his horrific models of free will and claims he was just trolling.]
This is obviously a lie. And it's not like it was any worse than what he's currently doing. Everything he does is completely retarded. Just look at one of his previous arguments for free will:

Who's to say his "troll" post was any worse than this? This argument is an abomination. He sets out to merely prove the possibility of free will, but assumes that free will is true in the second premise.

13:33 [Animating Rebel claims I didn't argue against the paper IP cited, and I didn't show that it failed to support IP's position.]
What I did was point out that the paper mistakenly conflated free will with indeterminism. That is obviously a problem with that paper. The paper fails to support IP's position because it is consistent with randomness. Animating Rebel and IP both fail to provide a reason why free will is preferable to randomness. And again, Animating Rebel's experience does not count as a reason for anyone but himself.

15:18 [Animating Rebel says he wasn't asserting anything, he was just asking, "but wouldn't choice be a lot more reasonable a conclusion?"]
Yes, technically he was asking that, but obviously he thinks that is the case and apparently didn't care to offer reasons to think it is.
Animating Rebel once again asserts that his experience should be considered compelling evidence to everyone else. And again, I see no reason to think that experience could even possibly provide evidence for free will.

I already addressed the part of his video about Brembs. While it's true that Brembs was not saying that evolution is inconsistent with universal determinism, he's still an idiot for conflating determinism with predictability, and he still failed to provide evidence for free will because what he said is consistent with determinism and randomness.





Saturday, January 17, 2015

InspiringPhilosophy's Position is Still Confusing

It seems that InspiringPhilosophy's position is either incoherent or incomplete. The trouble with his view is that he has devoted so much effort to arguing that the mental cannot be reducible to the physical, and that the mental can influence the physical, but he has yet to offer an intelligible explanation of how the physical is supposed to be emergent from the mental. So far his only explanation of how the physical emerges from the mental is that the physical is contingent on God's thoughts (which are not mental images, but words) about it.
There are at least two problems with this:
1. There doesn't seem to be any reason why physical objects must be contingent on God's thoughts.
2. The fact that God is holding descriptive statements in consciousness doesn't explain why there are physical objects.
The best I can understand IP's position is as follows:
There are objectively real minds, which are nonspatial entities that have awareness, and physical objects, whose properties exist due to the fact that God is thinking of propositions about them. Our minds can influence our brains, which is to say that we are changing (through "focusing" or some kind of mental effort) the propositions in God's mind. Changing the structure of our brains also affects our mental attributes somehow. Presumably brain structure can store memory and personality, and influence conscious experience. Brains aren't illusory or a separate substance, they are fundamentally mental because they are reducible to God's thoughts.
That's what I've gathered anyway. I will leave it to IP to attempt to explain the relationship between God, our minds, and our brains in a future video.
My main question is, why is any of this necessary? What in the world suggests this is what reality is like?
Even conceding IP's arguments that the brain is not sufficient to explain all of the mental, it is clear that he's made some strange moves in an effort to avoid dualism. But his main argument against dualism is ineffective. He incorrectly claims that substances cannot share properties because if they did, one would be reducible to the other. But there is no justification for this. Why would sharing a property make one reducible to the other? He needs to provide an answer.
There is another thing about IP's view that deserves mention. For some reason he admitted that all of the properties of an unobserved object would remain, but he said a "unified perception" of it would not be there. Well of course not, that is tautological and in agreement with everyone's view on the matter.


Wednesday, October 8, 2014

Inspiring Philosophy is Full of Shit

The purpose of this post is to make it abundantly clear that Inspiring Philosophy did repeatedly contradict himself and doesn't even know wtf he means by "information". I am disgusted by the fact that Inspiring Philosophy has been so successful in misleading an army of retards with his ill-defined, contradictory bullshit. This will be continuously updated as I uncover more blatant contradictions from Inspiring Philosophy. 

First of all, it is clear from multiple quotes that Inspiring Philosophy has affirmed subjective idealism (the view that our thoughts and perceptions held in conscious experience are all that exist.):

"A reality independent of observation doesn't exist."
"The existence of reality is dependent on there being an observer."
"Reality is a mental construct, and doesn't exist independent of observation."
"Materialism would be that the universe is the only thing that exists and consciousness is an illusion of it. Idealism would be the opposite." (Notice that he is literally saying here that consciousness is the only thing in existence). 

And it is also clear that he has contradicted this position several times:

"Independent of observation, particles exist in a state of a wave function"
"Of course something exists prior to observation. We would argue that would be information."
"Without an observer there is no qualia, but the information waiting to be loaded."
"memories or thoughts exist even when I am not perceiving them"
"I have never in definition identified as a monistic idealist in the strong sense" (By "strong sense", he is referring to subjective idealism.)

Inspiring Philosophy, Johanan Raatz, derezzed83, Animating Rebel, and all of Raatz's minions constantly use the term "information". Animating Rebel and derezzed83 prefer to simply leave the term undefined, which instantly exposes their empty position. Inspiring Philosophy and Raatz have been forced to offer definitions due to my persistent questioning. They have offered three basic definitions that are, of course, completely inconsistent:
1. Information is the semantic content of a sentence. I have already shown that this definition makes most of their claims regarding information incoherent. 
2. Information is sense experience. Well, if that's the case, then why even call it information? This isn't what people ordinarily mean by information, so you're just being deliberately confusing for the sake of sounding computery. This also directly contradicts Inspiring Philosophy's claim that information exists prior to observation. 
3. Information is the fundamental nature of reality. This is just hopelessly vague. And again, there is no need to call this stuff "information". It's not like that's what comes to anyone's mind when they think of information.

Inspiring Philosophy has taken numerous positions regarding information:

"Information itself, is contingent by definition. So it must be dependent on something."

Which is contradicted by -

"all reality is information"

He has also said that mind cannot exist without information:

"mind/consciousness has elements of interpreted information and cannot be without it."

And that mind can exist without information:

"The mind could exist without information."

As for what specific things Inspiring Philosophy considers to be information, so far his list includes qualia, personalities, memories, and unobserved physical objects (how he can even allow for unobserved physical objects is a mystery, since he has also claimed that the physical world is only qualia). 

Then there's this quote from Inspiring Philosophy. I really have no idea how he thinks this makes sense:

"As an idealist of course consciousness is not independent of the brain."



And, regarding the "objective idealist" philosophers (Kant, Hegel, and Putnam) that Inspiring Philosophy tried to associate himself with:

Kant obviously disagreed with Inspiring Philosophy because he believed in the noumena, which is the objectively real world of "things-in-themselves" that exists beyond our perceptions. 


Hegel's philosophy is obscured by a thick veil of indiscernible nonsense (or it might just be indiscernible nonsense), but the following sentence from SEP seems to conflict with Inspiring Philosophy: "The pantheistic legacy inherited by Hegel meant that he had no problem in considering an objective outer world beyond any particular subjective mind." 


Putnam's internal realism has been criticized for being somewhat retarded, but there are also quotes that indicate it is inconsistent with Inspiring Philosophy's position: "I am not inclined to scoff at the idea of a noumenal ground behind the dualities of experience, even if all attempts to talk about it lead to antinomies", and "Today the notion of a noumenal world is perceived to be an unnecessary metaphysical element in Kant's thought. (But perhaps Kant is right: perhaps we can't help thinking that there is somehow a mind-independent 'ground' for our experience even if attempts to talk about it lead at once to nonsense.)"


Saturday, September 6, 2014

Addendum - Part 1: Information

Refuting Idealism - Part 1: Information - http://youtu.be/CLhKBCdGFoQ?list=UUxi1Dqz8ndY_FwI43pIPkjg

It's hard to see how anything I said in this video could be remotely objectionable, but I'm writing this because I feel that my delivery did not make it clear just how enormously idiotic the points I addressed were.

First, it's absurd that I even had to ask these people for a definition of information since they have been mentioning it in their videos as a crucial part of their ontology. However, despite claiming that the world is somehow made of information, they neglected to define what they even mean by information.

After asking them, I received four inconsistent and incredibly bad definitions. I think I adequately refuted all of these, but I realize I could have been more incisive and brutal in my wording. For example, in the video I stated that, "if 'differences' were to exist, they would be abstract objects, not building blocks of concrete objects." This is correct, but it may need clarification. What I'm saying is that abstract objects like "differences" cannot simply replace things like rocks and chairs. I don't believe "differences" even exist in the first place, but if they did exist, they would exist in addition to such things. The complete list of facts about a particular thing, which would include its properties and differences from other things, would simply be a description of that thing. A description of a thing is not identical to that thing, nor does it compose that thing. That would be like claiming a person is made of their biography. It's simply ridiculous, and perhaps one of the most insane positions ever argued for. It's one thing to say that abstract objects exist, but it is beyond absurd to replace the physical world with them. Abstract objects do not do anything or look like anything. They are literally made of nothing. Such a world would just be an empty void. As Stephen Yablo says, they "have not much more to them than what flows from our conception of them." And to quote Peter van Inwagen, "it seems evident that if everything were an abstract object, if the only objects were abstract objects, there is an obvious and perfectly good sense in which there would be nothing at all, for there would be no physical things, no stuffs, no events, no space, no time, no Cartesian egos, no God..."

Raatz has since changed his definition of information to "sense perceptions", which just makes his position the definition of subjective idealism ("to be is to be perceived"). This will be addressed in Part 3 of the series.

The video was unexpectedly well-received, given that I had taken little time scripting it because I took it as obvious that the idealists's position fell apart immediately upon analysis. However, it was quite hilarious to see derezzed83 claim that none of my points were valid, prior to even watching the whole video (he later retracted this statement). He of course failed to defend any argument against what I said in the video.